# A Wonderful Interview with the Highly Respected Ivan Panchenko

*07.02.2024*

Starting from the 25th minute, Ivan [talks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=d9joPLRULeA) about us,
although he doesn't name us. However, the rest of the hour-long interview is equally important for everyone working with
open-source projects.

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Starting from the 25th minute, Ivan [talks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=d9joPLRULeA) about us,
although he doesn't name us. However, the rest of the hour-long interview is equally important for everyone working with
open-source projects.

Ivan Panchenko and Oleg Bartunov from Postgres Professional are the senior colleagues who supported us with timely advice and helped us avoid pitfalls that were obvious to them but invisible to us at that moment.